In this episode of The Hole Conversation, the founder of Happie Holl, Marc Lyons, sits down with sex coach and educator Georgia Grace—co-founder of Normal and author of The Modern Guide to Sex—to explore why a holistic, queer-inclusive approach to sex education matters more than ever.

From Curiosity to Career: Why Sex Ed Needs a Reboot

Georgia’s journey moved from journalism and PR into somatic sex therapy, where mind and body meet to address pain, shame, and disconnection. Sparked by the #MeToo era, her mission is simple: replace fear and silence with information, consent, and pleasure-focused guidance.

Free Education + Quality Toys: Changing the Culture

At Normal, Georgia helped build free, in-depth courses that demystify pleasure and reduce stigma around sex toys. Education and products sit side-by-side: when people understand their bodies, they choose tools that truly support their pleasure.

Data We Needed: The Normal Sex Survey

Australia lacks robust stats on pleasure and queer experience. Normal’s demographically representative research (2021–2022) shows promising shifts—like a closing orgasm gap—and rising knowledge of clitoral anatomy (thanks in part to Dr Helen O’Connell’s landmark 2017 mapping). Better research → better conversations → better sex.

Beyond “Don’t Get Pregnant”: What Holistic Really Means

Traditional “health” messaging often fixates on risk. Holistic sex education includes desire, communication, safety, identity, and pleasure—and recognises queer bodies and experiences. If a resource starts with fear, it’s probably not the one.

Butt Stuff, Stigma & Safety

We talk anal pleasure without the pearl-clutching. Key principles: go slow, use lube, choose flared-base toys, and prioritise consent and butt comfort. With the right guidance, anal play can be safe, connected, and seriously pleasurable—no moral panic required.

Sorting Signal from Noise

Online advice is a mixed bag. Georgia’s tip: look for training, supervision, and professional memberships. Non-credentialed voices can still help—just treat them as perspectives, not gospel. If content doesn’t land for your body or context, keep searching.

Final Thought

Holistic sex education isn’t “extra”—it’s the foundation of safer, happier, more informed intimacy. When we pair credible learning with intentional tools and community care, pleasure becomes possible for more people, more of the time.

Listen to the podcast episode here